25 Nov 2016, 11:28
Type in Terminal: csrutil status
24 Nov 2016, 10:00
See my reply in the other thread where you posted the same question.
24 Nov 2016, 09:59
It will not work like that. You cannot move anything into or out of the System folder with SIP enabled (which is enabled by default). If you want FP to work in Sierra, you will need to follow the steps as described above in the post by blueberry, including steps 2), 5), and 7).
28 Nov 2015, 11:30
Maybe this helps:
SafariStand uses SIMBL. This article (link below) discusses installing SIMBL in El Capitan.
http://editeddaily.com/how-to-install-s ... l-capitan/
and followup remarks:
https://github.com/norio-nomura/EasySIM ... -117028426
03 Nov 2015, 15:37
FinderPop is not potentially great, it IS great. I used FP for many years, already in MacOS9 and again after it had been released for MacOSX.
However, with SIP in El Capitan, its core features, that depend on patching the Finder, are now blocked.
For only menu navigation (plus optional file info and 'Open with'), CustomMenu seems indeed a good replacement. A customizable menu, somewhat similar to the FP menu, that can be accessed from the menubar. With a hotkey combo the menu can also be invoked at the cursor location, anywhere on the screen in any application.
14 Oct 2015, 19:09
Maybe not so strange. FP will not work in applications, like the Finder, that are protected by SIP. Code injection in those running processes is prevented. But in other (third party) applications it may still work.
01 Oct 2015, 09:21
See discussion above in this topic. If there will be a future version of FP that will work in OSX 10.11 (El Capitan), it will only work with SIP (System Integrity Protection) disabled. Disabling SIP is not something an average user should do.
For extensive description of SIP in El Capitan, see:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/os ... view/8/#h1
29 Sep 2015, 16:37
prof49 wrote:Will FP work if I upgrade to El Capitan?
No, it will not work. See discussion above.
04 Sep 2015, 17:38
Does SIP need to be disabled and remain disabled for FP to work? Apparently some applications like cDock or Bartender need to have SIP disabled at initial installation, but will continue to work when SIP is again enabled after installation.
http://www.macbartender.com/system-item-setup/
09 Aug 2015, 08:22
If there will be a version that will run on OSX El Capitan, it will not run on a default OSX installation. You will need to disable the new "System Integrity Protection" (a.k.a. "Rootless") feature, something most users will be reluctant to do. This problem affects many popular software additions, not only FinderPop.
See discussion from here: viewtopic.php?p=1505#p1505
30 Nov 2014, 14:25
1, I do not know a version 2.5.8. As far as I am aware, the latest version is 2.5.7
2. First uninstall FP properly by using the option in FinderPop preferences panel > Etc. tab > Uninstall FinderPop. (If FP is installed for more than one user, repeat that for every user that has FP installed.)
3. Then install FinderPop for all users:
- Make sure that System Preferences is not running - quit it if it is running.
- Download the latest FinderPop version and double-click the FinderPop.prefPane icon from that download.
- When System Preferences opens it'll ask you whether FP should be installed for all users or just you. Choose "All users".
22 Nov 2014, 08:55
tonyaguila wrote:With FinderPop installed for all users, including root,
How did you do the installation? Not for each user separately, I hope.
At installation (by double clicking the prefs panel file) you choose the option to install "for all users".
FinderPop works fine in Yosemite for others. If you did the installation properly, we'll have to wait for Turly to shed light on this problem.
21 Nov 2014, 20:47
tonyaguila wrote:Anyway, I discovered that it was only happening with the user account that has FinderPop installed.
Not sure if this is the cause of the issue you report, but with recent OSX versions (since Mountain Lion?) FinderPop will only work properly when installed for all users.
Try:
Uninstall FinderPop (FinderPop prefs panel > Etc. tab > Uninstall FinderPop button)
Restart with FP uninstalled.
Install a fresh copy of FP For All Users.
15 Nov 2014, 13:12
Which version of FP do you use? Version 2.5.7 is supposed to solve the issue with aliases in Yosemite:
• 2.5.7 Allows FinderPop to work with alias files produced by the Yosemite 10.10 Finder.
• In FinderPop's Move/Copy/Alias dialog, you can control-click the Alias button and FinderPop will create symlinks instead of aliases.
18 Sep 2014, 09:13
Just a thought:
I understand that aliases in the FinderPop Items folder that existed before the upgrade to Yosemite continue to works as expected, but that aliases created in Yosemite do not. Correct?
Apple seems to have changed the alias (alias, not simlink) file format before. Aliases used to be small (in bytes) and, if I remember correctly, all about the same size. In more recent OSX versions (since 10.7 or 10.8?) they are of very different size and some are quite large. Maybe Apple changed the alias file format again in Yosemite?
23 Aug 2014, 14:54
I am sure FinderPop has never been tested on a configuration like this and I wouldn't be surprised if FinderPop is unable to see, for instance, anything on the desktop in this setup. Only Turly himself can tell.
Have you tried right-clicking (or control-clicking) on anything inside a Finder window that displays the content of a folder that is in its standard location, like the Applications folder?
23 Aug 2014, 11:23
The use of the OWC Data Doubler may be more of a problem for FinderPop than FileVault. Do I understand correctly that you start up from the SSD but that the HDD needs to be mounted to see icons on your desktop? That suggests that your Home folder is on the HDD. Exactly what is on the SSD and what is on the HDD?
22 Aug 2014, 16:41
For now, we can not exclude that the issue is related to FileVault. However, I think it is unlikely that it is, because FileVault works at a very deep low level and software running on top is not aware of what FileVault is doing.
A way to exclude interference with other third party software would be to do a safe restart and login. Restart, and subsequently login, while holding the shift key. That way no third party software will be loaded.
The safe startup will last (much) longer than a normal restart because the system does a file system check on all connected volumes. Also some of the cache files will be emptied and it may revert some settings you made, even after a following normal restart. On my machine the fast user switching menu that I disabled will reappear, and Easy SIMBL needs to be activated again
When safe login is completed, you can now load only FinderPop by opening System Preferences > FinderPop and and again close System Preferences. Does FP now work? Best check by trying if a FP contextual menu will appear when clicking in the top left corner (on the one pixel in the very corner).
22 Aug 2014, 11:36
turly wrote:Next time I'm at my Mac, will have to try setting up another dummy user with FileVault enabled.
Note that in 10.9.4 (10.7 and later) you cannot enable FileVault on a per user basis. FileVault will be enabled for the whole drive: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4790?view ... cale=en_US
21 Aug 2014, 16:47
Hm, maybe we need to wait for Turly for an answer.
FP works fine here in 10.9.4. Any other software running that affects the Finder?
21 Aug 2014, 16:26
Does FP work after you relaunch the Finder?
(You can find the option to restart the Finder when you click the Finder icon in the Dock while holding the Option key.)
21 Aug 2014, 09:08
rsbae wrote:But I don't get anything when I right-click anywhere - Finder, menubar, applications, desktop, etc. It's as if it's not running at all.
1. Do mean nothing at all, not even the usual contextual menu in the Finder, or do you mean no additional items in that menu? If you don't get anything at all, you may not have enabled right-click in System Preferences > Mouse (you can also use control-click instead of right-click).
2. If the contextual menu is working, but no additional FinderPop features:
- Have you checked settings in FinderPop prefs pane in System Preferences?
- Did you make sure that Folder Actions Setup is enabled in System Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts > Services > Files & Folders?
09 Jun 2014, 20:29
See System Preferences > FinderPop > "Etc." tab.
19 May 2014, 08:41
Some icons shown in System Preferences differ from the icons of the actual preference pane files as shown in the Finder. FinderPop shows the icons as shown in the Finder.
09 Feb 2014, 21:31
This is a FinderPop feature:
When you click on a (selected) item in the Finder, you will see in the Application menu only the applications that can be used with that item (and folders that may or may not contain such an application). You can disable this feature. See in FP preference panel, Appearance tab, the option "Show only applications which can open the selection".
31 Oct 2013, 11:27
We cannot see your images this way. You will need to upload them to a place where they can be viewed via the internet with a web-browser and then post links to them here.
You can use FP in Finder and in other applications (if set in the prefs panel) by clicking in unused space in the menu bar. Does that work in the Finder? Does that work in TextEdit?
24 Jul 2013, 12:51
I have used subsequent versions of FP for many years and on different machines. I do not have, nor ever had, this issue with FinderPop.
I now run FP 2.4.9 in OSX 10.8.4 on a 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac with 4 GHz RAM. I have 15 items in the "FinderPop Items" folder, nine aliases, four separation folders, and two special link folders (one with ---a for all applications in Applications and Applications/Utilities and one with ---p for running processes).
When I click on icons in the Applications folder, selection is instantaneous. Also, there is no unusual memory use when FinderPop is enabled and used. At this very moment Activity Monitor reports 1.7GB of 4GB installed RAM to be free. (I restarted the machine about six hours ago because of an installation.)
Judging by posts in this support forum, only few people encounter the slowing of selection in the Applications folder. It must be something specific to your (and their) configuration, possibly a conflict with other software.
Did you give Turly the information he asked for in his last post (Dec 2011) here about this issue?
22 Jul 2013, 08:07
FinderPop 2.4.9 appeared on MacUpdate: https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/655/finderpop
06 Jul 2013, 09:46
Unless you want to be able to choose different menu bar colors and translucency gradients, Menu Bar Tint has become obsolete for making the menubar opaque since the option to turn off translucency was introduced in Mac OS X 10.5.2.
09 Nov 2012, 11:07
http://www.finderpop.com works again.
20 Oct 2012, 16:44
This is a Mountain Lion issue rather than a FinderPop issue, but I do not know where to ask this and because it also affects FinderPop, I try here.
Since upgrading to Mountain Lion I notice that many messages that applications used write to a log file and that could be read in Console, are nowhere to be found in Mountain Lion.
The only messages related to FinderPop are of the type:
20-10-12 16:01:43,398 TextEdit[3370]: FinderPop: current app appears to be SandBoxed
The messages that used to be recorded when applications are patched by FinderPop at launch (Patching 'Finder') are missing.
Searching the web, I find only few scattered posts about this (or a similar) issue, sometimes called a change in Mountain Lion and sometimes called a bug in Mountain Lion.
Anyone know what is going on?
03 Oct 2012, 13:24
Maybe you did what I did at first, install FP for this user only. To work in sandboxed apps It needs to be installed for all users. Uninstall FP (can be done easily in "Etc." tab in the FP pref pane) and choose to install for all users when installing it again.
01 Oct 2012, 21:24
RonaldPR wrote:No problems with 2.4.6 (apart from the not-signed issue).
But again it does not work in applications like TextEdit and Preview, not in unused menu bar and not in upper left corner of the screen.
I had FP installed for this user only. After I removed it and installed it again for all users, FP now works fine with sandboxed applications like TextEdit.
01 Oct 2012, 11:42
tsanchai wrote:However, I noticed that I have to set System Prefrences-Securit and privacy-general to allow software nstalltion from Anywhere before start installing Finderpop 2.4.4 or else the installation will have troupe, and Finderpop won't run.
After set the Security and Privacy to Anywhere as described above, and install 2.4.4, then run I for the first time. After Finderpop 2.4.4 run, then I can set the Security and Privacy back to allow software installation only from Mac App Store and Identified software developer. Following that Finderpop 2.4.4 will run fine. I think it has to do with sandboxing and security bug in 10.8.2" Similar problem occur with a software call Tidy Up 3.0.3 as well.
It is not a bug but an intentional feature intended to make users think twice before they install or run unsigned software (software by a unidentified developer). You do not need to change security settings, just right-click (or control-click) on the application or installer (or in this case the preference pane) and choose "Open" from the contextual menu. You will get a different dialog that will offer the choice to use the unsigned software.
01 Oct 2012, 09:31
The FP pane tells me:
FinderPop 2.4.6
of Monday 1 October 2012
"Crash and Burn"
01 Oct 2012, 09:16
Tried with TextEdit. Waited 20 seconds after launch. Nothing.
I viewed again one of yesterday's crash reports. It has lots of finderpop and finderpop-osax in it.
01 Oct 2012, 09:03
No problems with 2.4.6 (apart from the not-signed issue).
But again it does not work in applications like TextEdit and Preview, not in unused menu bar and not in upper left corner of the screen.
01 Oct 2012, 08:48
turly wrote:PS: Full-Score, the crash report for EarthDesk doesn't mention FinderPop at all...
That is what I noticed when I quickly scrolled through the crash reports here yesterday evening. No reference to FinderPop.
I will try 2.4.6. Fingers crossed...
30 Sep 2012, 21:55
Installed 2.4.5 in OSX 10.8.2 and disaster struck.
Not only did FP not work anymore, even in the Finder, but several applications crashed consistently, among which System Preferences and Console. Logout-login did not help, restarting did not help. Crashes, crashes, crashes. After a safe startup en login (with shift key pressed), I removed the FP preference pane. Re-installed FP 2.4.4 and all is well again (apart from FP not working in sandboxed applications).
24 Sep 2012, 21:14
A. H. wrote:(If the translation is too long, I could help you with a shorter one; just give me the English sentence.)
Menus will use localised names instead of disk names. Note that this may slow FP.
10 Sep 2012, 08:48
With default (middle) Gatekeeper settings in Mountain Lion, such messages are to be expected for non-signed applications that are launched for the first time. Once allowed to run, it should not happen again (until of course a new version is installed or if you used a maintenance utility that resets the information that the application was allowed to run).
I do not know if FinderPop is code-signed or not, I upgraded to Mountain Lion while FP was already installed. You can find finderpop-daemon inside the FP package and control-click it there if needed:
/Library/PreferencePanes/FinderPop.prefPane/Contents/Resources/finderpop-daemon.app
19 Aug 2012, 16:25
Considering your ever changing whereabouts, ever thought of buying a MacBook Pro/Air for your next machine?
06 Aug 2012, 09:55
turly wrote:I'll have a look at it again @ the weekend...
And what did you find?
01 Aug 2012, 14:05
turly wrote:I'm installed for "All Users" (you have to be if you want FP to work with SandBoxed apps like TextEdit.)
I didn't know that (and didn't notice yet as I installed ML only three days ago). I uninstalled FinderPop and installed it for All Users. It works fine for me in the Finder, but it still does not work in TextEdit and also not in Mail and in Preview. It does work in TextWrangler, in Safari, in Contacts, in iPhoto, in iTunes, in Pages, and in System Preferences.
When I launch TextEdit:
- Code:
01-08-12 14:55:04,000 kernel[0]: Sandbox: sandboxd(509) deny mach-lookup com.apple.coresymbolicationd
01-08-12 14:56:06,596 com.apple.security.pboxd[516]: Bug: 12A269: liblaunch.dylib + 23849 [224CB010-6CF8-3FC2-885C-6F80330321EB]: 0x25
01-08-12 14:56:08,083 TextEdit[514]: FinderPop: current app appears to be SandBoxed
01-08-12 14:56:08,000 kernel[0]: Sandbox: sandboxd(517) deny mach-lookup com.apple.coresymbolicationd
01-08-12 14:56:08,591 sandboxd[517]: ([514]) TextEdit(514) deny file-read-data /Users
Full report:
- Code:
TextEdit(514) deny file-read-data /Users
Process: TextEdit [514]
Path: /Applications/TextEdit.app/Contents/MacOS/TextEdit
Load Address: 0x1044e2000
Identifier: com.apple.TextEdit
Version: 301 (1.8)
Build Info: 50-TextEdit~301000000000000
Code Type: x86_64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [165]
Date/Time: 2012-08-01 14:56:08.093 +0200
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.8 (12A269)
Report Version: 8
Thread 0:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff89c4a02a __open_nocancel + 10
1 fp-patch-mb-cocoa 0x0000000107f20d3b _finderpop_load + 344
2 FinderPopOsax 0x0000000107f14bbf FPOsaxHandler + 791
3 OpenScripting 0x00007fff87c7f8b1 EventHandlerThunk(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, void*) + 99
4 AE 0x00007fff90a88f68 aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned int, unsigned char*) + 307
5 AE 0x00007fff90a88dc9 dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) + 37
6 AE 0x00007fff90a88c89 aeProcessAppleEvent + 318
7 HIToolbox 0x00007fff8ca35e29 AEProcessAppleEvent + 100
8 AppKit 0x00007fff891642a6 _DPSNextEvent + 1456
9 AppKit 0x00007fff89163862 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
10 AppKit 0x00007fff8915ac03 -[NSApplication run] + 517
11 AppKit 0x00007fff890ff656 NSApplicationMain + 869
12 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff8aed47e1 start + 0
Binary Images:
0x107f14000 - 0x107f14ff7 com.finderpop.finderpop-osax (2.4.4 - 2.4.4) <E8F63C06-C2D3-9F9B-DB01-D7E981A45D77> /Library/ScriptingAdditions/FinderPopOsax.osax/Contents/MacOS/FinderPopOsax
0x107f1f000 - 0x107f22ff7 com.finderpop.fp-patch-mb-cocoa (2.4.2 - 2.4.2) <17307009-CBBA-30E0-61F9-040BD7308804> /Library/PreferencePanes/FinderPop.prefPane/Contents/Resources/finderpop-daemon.app/Contents/Resources/fp-patch-mb-cocoa.bundle/Contents/MacOS/fp-patch-mb-cocoa
0x7fff87c6c000 - 0x7fff87c88fff com.apple.openscripting (1.3.5) <ACDE22A1-6170-3289-AF26-E501E6326BD7> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting
0x7fff8900d000 - 0x7fff89c37fff com.apple.AppKit (6.8 - 1187) <C9309F5C-9441-3E5B-A120-B03FEDDA63F9> /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
0x7fff89c38000 - 0x7fff89c53ff7 libsystem_kernel.dylib (2050.7.9) <E0447BF5-E104-35B0-B28B-4156887D58F1> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x7fff8aed2000 - 0x7fff8aed5ff7 libdyld.dylib (210.2.3) <F59367C9-C110-382B-A695-9035A6DD387E> /usr/lib/system/libdyld.dylib
0x7fff8c9cc000 - 0x7fff8ccfbff7 com.apple.HIToolbox (2.0) <49C4A53E-9239-3B9A-95DC-8C7B398E491D> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
0x7fff90a80000 - 0x7fff90addff7 com.apple.AE (645 - 645) <9C3E54BA-EE6B-3F02-8775-9C4AF40F40CD> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.framework/Versions/A/AE
31 Jul 2012, 21:30
Weird problem. I do not see it with 2.4.4 in Mountain Lion. I have FP installed for only this user (me). Maybe the problem is only manifest when installed for all users?
Edit: Could it be that the Finder loads before finderpop-daemon? Does FP work in the Finder when you relaunch the Finder? (Click the Finder icon in the Dock while holding the option (alt) button to see the relaunch option.)
07 Jun 2012, 12:53
Exactly how did you install FinderPop? (Should be installed by double-clicking the FP icon.)
When installed, is it "On" in the FP panel?
29 Apr 2012, 20:48
turly wrote:In particular, can anyone who has 10.4 or 10.5 check that 2.4.3 works OK?
It works in 10.4 on my PowerBook G4. I did not test extensively, I rarely use my PowerBook these days. Any specific features you would like to have tried?
I noticed a difference between FP in 10.4 PPC and FP in 10.6/10.7. With identical settings I see "FinderPop" appear (in italics) at the bottom of the Processes submenu in 10.4. I do not see that in 10.7 and I am sure I never saw that in 10.6.
24 Apr 2012, 23:32
I wonder...
This is not the first time the issue arises. Isn't there a way to enable Folder Actions Setup automatically when FinderPop is installed, or used for the first time, or when the daemon is loaded?
23 Apr 2012, 12:15
The included FP2.4.2-README.txt starts with: 'This is release 2.4.3 "April Showers" of FinderPop.'
30 Mar 2012, 10:14
I don't think the warning is related to FinderPop. FinderPop is installed on my machine. In /Library/ScriptingAdditions/ I only have a FinderPopOsax.osax, no SIMBL.osax. Do you have a (maybe older) SIMBL plugin installed in ~/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/ or in /Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/ ?
26 Mar 2012, 11:54
tsiv wrote:241 works quite well within every program, except when I'm in Google Chrome. No pop-up.
Does FinderPop not show the FinderPop menu or does FinderPop prevent the normal unmodified contextual menu in Google Chrome? If it blocks the normal contextual menu, you could try to add Google Chrome to the excluded applications list in "Active" tab in FinderPop Preferences panel.
12 Jan 2012, 10:44
Well, also in 10.6 (Snow Leopard) it works as Liki describes:
When I navigate through the FP menu while keeping the mouse button pressed, FP info for the file appears when pressing "i" over a file icon, but when I press "i" while navigating through the menu without holding the mouse button, FP info appears for a split second, and then the Finder Info panel opens.
When I do the same with pressing option-command instead of "i", in both situations only the FP info for the file appears.
When I read FP Help, it seems to describe this difference between pressing "i" and pressing option-command. I assumed this to be the behaviour I should expect.
11 Jan 2012, 21:54
Isn't that the expected behavior as described in FinderPop Help?
05 Dec 2011, 10:42
I can reproduce the problem only when "Use Finder Label Colors" is enabled in FP prefs pane.
But with that option enabled, I can reproduce the problem with other files as well. If I follow the same procedure with the icon of a jpeg image, it will no longer open in Preview, and if I do that with a text file, it will no longer open in TextEdit.
(Also OSX 10.6.8)
02 Dec 2011, 00:58
The problem is not universal. Clicking in unused space in the menu bar in iTunes 10.5.1 in OSX 10.6.8 works here as expected.
02 Dec 2011, 00:50
No need to switch to the Finder when there is not enough free space in the menu bar. You can click in the first pixel in the upper left corner of your screen to invoke the FP menu. It works only on that one pixel, so not as convenient as clicking in free space, but it works. Move your mouse cursor into the corner and click.
11 Nov 2011, 10:09
The 'Show dot files' and 'Show invisible items' options will enable showing the hidden files in FinderPop menus, not in the Finder.
18 Oct 2011, 21:04
Maybe you have the option for translucent menu bar enabled (is enabled by default). FinderPop has problems recognizing unused space in the menu bar when the desktop image shines through. Go into System Preferences > Desktop & Screensaver and make sure the related checkbox is not checked.
17 Oct 2011, 21:03
Do you often use/need the toolbar and/or sidebar in Finder windows?
Double-clicking a folder in a window with toolbar and sidebar hidden will always open that folder in a new window, regardless the setting in Finder preferences. It works like that in Snow Leopard and as far as I remember it worked like that in Leopard. I keep toolbar and sidebar hidden in the window for most folders and I have Finder preferences set to not always open folders in a new window.
09 Oct 2011, 11:15
Should be solved in FinderPop 2.4.1.
02 Oct 2011, 19:36
Phredd wrote:The Factory Finder had a feature which I find almost indispensable. When I dubl-clicked a file or a folder whilst depressing the Control and Option keys, the file or folder would open and its parent folder would automatically close. A great time-saving feature.
Great feature indeed, but the feature works (and has worked in MacOS since long before MacOSX) with holding only the Option key.
Can FP be configured so that just using the Control key alone will invoke it?
It already does that. No need to also hold the Option key to invoke the FP menu.
31 Aug 2011, 09:41
1. The latest beta certainly has better 10.7 compatibility.
2. If FinderPop causes problems with certain applications, you can prevent those application from being patched by FinderPop. See the "Active" tab in FinderPop prefs panel and add the problem application to the list.
20 Aug 2011, 22:45
Best first try the latest (2.3.9.3 BETA) version (see Version Announcements forum). Many issues have been solved since 2.3.0.
20 Aug 2011, 22:34
You can set the menu font size in FP preference panel, Appearance tab.
15 Aug 2011, 20:44
turly wrote:Folder Actions Setup is the one a lot of people seem to untick ("Hmm, I wonder what this does...probably nothing...")
I suppose many do what I do. I like to keep the services menu short, with only the few items I actually use. I disable all other services.
15 Aug 2011, 11:12
turly wrote:Make sure that the "Folder Actions setup" is enabled, otherwise FP won't work properly.
It is an advice you have given many times before. I do not have Folder Actions Setup enabled and still FP works fine. But I have several other services enabled that work on folders. Maybe any enabled service that works on folders will serve the same purpose for FP?
(The setting is indeed in System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts > Services > Files and Folders)
24 Jul 2011, 09:17
Sent email with the crash report.
23 Jul 2011, 23:08
Installing FP 2.3.9.2 beta in OSX 10.6.8 made System Preferences crash at the moment the adm password was sent (I can send the crash report if needed), but everything seems to be OK otherwise. There is a slight delay when clicking in unused menu bar in some applications (Safari 5.1), a delay that I did not notice before and that does not happen when clicking in top left corner.
11 Jul 2011, 21:01
turly wrote:@RonaldPR: Fixed that issue, we now do a mkdir -p /Library/ScriptingAdditions
Thanks. Installs and works fine now.
11 Jul 2011, 09:14
I do not have a /Library/ScriptingAdditions/ folder and that is also what is reported in Console:
- Code:
11-07-11 10:01:12 [0x0-0x4f04f].com.apple.systempreferences[422] /bin/ti: line 0: cd: /Library/ScriptingAdditions: No such file or directory
Obviously you cannot cd into a directory that does not exist. It needs to created first. Does FP try to create that folder? Nothing reported about that in Console.
Maybe in some configurations that folder already exists as a result of other software installations? It does not exist here. Snow Leopard was installed with migration of the one user only, last updated with the 10.6.8 Combo updater. So I guess that the /Library/ScriptingAdditions/ folder is not present in Snow Leopard by default.
11 Jul 2011, 00:13
2.3.3.0 beta does not work here (OSX 10.6.8)
After installing (it asks for my adm password) and restart, no FP menu anywhere. And each time I want to open the preference panel, it again asks for my adm password . In Console I see lines about FP patching applications when they are launched, and patching the Finder when it is re-launched, but no FP menu.
I re-installed 2.3.2.0 beta and everything is fine again.
25 Apr 2011, 17:11
vlad wrote:2.3.2. est omen… After install+restart, move or copy per right/ctrl click doesn't work for anything at all. Neither does clicking in unused menubar area (I seldom use that).
Apart from the special situation described above (right/ctrl click on the one already selected folder in column view) these features work fine here (FP 2.3.2.0 beta and SL 10.6.7).
About the menu bar: Could be the known problem with the translucent menu bar. You can disable the menu bar translucency in system preferences "Desktop & Screen Saver".
MBP4,1, 2.4 GHz, 6 GB RAM, running SL 1.6.4 (and wary of updating fttb because of the obligatory software supermarket)
You do not need to use the App Store. I dragged its icon from the Dock and I ignore the item in the Apple menu. I never used it, I never launched the App Store application, and it never did anything on its own.
21 Apr 2011, 21:50
I wouldn't mind addition of an option to sort invisible items after the other items if it is indeed that, an option. For years I am used to see 'dot files' at the top when files are sorted alphabetically and I do not want that changed in FP menus on my computers. I do not normally use the options to see those files in FP, though. When I need to access invisible files I enable those options in FP, or I make them visible in the Finder, or I use Terminal. And I access visible files inside invisible folders sometimes using the "Go" menu in the Finder. It all depends on what I want or need to do.
BTW 1: I notice that the .DS_Store files do not appear in FP menu. Was that already so in previous FP versions?
BTW 2: The desktop files "Desktop DB" and "Desktop DF" files will only appear at root level on disks/volumes that have been used (or are still used) with (Classic) Mac OS. They have no function anymore in Mac OS X.
BTW 3: I suppose the update check will only work for release versions.
18 Apr 2011, 10:37
Indeed, also on my computer the "Contents if on folder" with control-free popup does not work with the selected/opened folder in column view. Instead, the normal contextual+FP menu is displayed. Interestingly, control-command-clicking that same folder to show the contents menu does work.
17 Apr 2011, 12:05
In list and icon view, selecting a folder does just that. In column view it is not really possible to just select a single folder, single-clicking it will open it. Nevertheless, in list and icon view and when the Finder is set to open a separate window for each folder, it is possible to use FP to move a opened folder.
Edit: I never saw the problem before, not only because I mostly use icon or list view, but also because I never first select an object before I right-click on it to get the contextual menu.
16 Apr 2011, 13:32
I am not sure, but I may have discovered when Andrew sees this problem. I hope I can explain it clearly.
When I use column view, copying folder works fine for most folders regardless the column the folder is in and regardless whether the folder is opened or not. Control-click or right-click (or control-free popup) will invoke the FP menu. When the folder is dragged over a folder or volume the cursor with green + appears and the folder can be moved.
However (apart from some folders that cannot/should not be moved, like my Home folder) there is always one folder where it does not work and that is the folder that is last opened. That is the folder that appears 'selected' in the column before the last column, in the second column from the right. Control-click or right-click (or control-free popup) will invoke the FP menu, but when the folder is dragged over a folder or volume the cursor with green + does not appear and the folder cannot be moved.
First selecting a folder will make it the last opened folder and then it cannot be moved in the FP menu.
11 Apr 2011, 12:30
Small cosmetic issue: The color lables are not properly aligned, the labels appear positioned (just one pixel?) too high. As you may remember, the problem existed (and was solved) long time ago in earlier FP versions.
(Snow Leopard on 64-bit capable Intel machine.)
11 Apr 2011, 08:49
turly wrote:dotted items like .login appear at the very start of my menu as I'd expect them to, and invisible items appear alphabetically.
This certainly is the way I expect the items to appear in the menus. When those items are made visible in the Finder, sorting by name will sort them the same way in list and column view, it is the way the items are sorted in Terminal, and it is the usual way such items are sorted in other operating systems.
21 Mar 2011, 13:17
Just curious. Has any progress been made in finding the cause of this rare problem?
Apparently most users do not have the problem, while you have the problem on both your Macs. That is really strange. What could your two Macs have in common that is related to this problem?
23 Feb 2011, 15:59
Strange. I use FP 2.3.0.6 beta in OSX 10.6.6 and this works with folders just like it does with files: Right click a folder, navigate in the FP menu to another folder (the green + icon is shown) and release the mouse (the dialog appears).
30 Jan 2011, 23:10
I can confirm this control-free popup behavior in FP 2.3.0.3 beta in Snow Leopard:
Using control-free popup with the "Contents if on folder" option, the contents menu is shown on folders, but on folder aliases the 'normal' FinderPop enhanced contextual menu is shown.
However, command-control clicking a folder alias does not show the expected contents menu here:
Command-control clicking a folder shows the contents menu of that folder, but command-control clicking a folder alias shows the contents menu of the folder the alias is in instead.
29 Dec 2010, 23:43
Maybe I am wrong, but I have the feeling that in this thread there is a ongoing misunderstanding between System6 and Turly.
Turly's answers refer each time to possible lagging while using FinderPop, while invoking the FinderPop menu. But System6, as I read it, complains mainly about slowing of the Finder itself with regards to the Applications folder, about slowing while making Finder selections in the Applications folder, about delayed closing of the Applications folder window. He wrote that even after moving the mouse cursor over the red closing button of the Applications folder window it takes long before the red x appears. All this slowing apparently occurring only with the Applications folder and only when FinderPop is active.
24 Dec 2010, 21:42
Well, at least you appear to be the only one here in the forum with this problem.
What makes it unusual is that this slowing of Finder actions in or with the Applications folder occurs with FinderPop active but without FinderPop actually being used, and that the problem affects the Applications folder only. Really weird.
14 Dec 2010, 21:42
Is your menu bar set to be transparent? FP has problems with the transparent menu bar, possibly in combination with some desktop pictures. Maybe the problem started after you chose a different desktop picture. To disable the menu bar transparency:
- Open System Preferences.
- Open Desktop & Screen Saver under the Personal section.
- Uncheck the box for Translucent Menu Bar.
28 Nov 2010, 16:11
cortig wrote:Simply remove the Germal.lproj.
The System will automatically pick the default English.lproj if the lproj corresponding to the language in use by the System is missing
Yes, sure, that is easier. But it will work only if the first next supported language set in system preferences is English. If a language higher on the list happens to be one of the other languages that FinderPop supports, you will get that language in FinderPop.
27 Nov 2010, 23:14
Apparently a mix-up with the changed German and Italian localized strings.
The file
FinderPop.prefPane/Contents/Resources/finderpop-daemon.app/Contents/Resources/fp-patch.bundle/Contents/Resources/German.lproj/Localizable.strings
contains the Italian localized strings instead of the German ones.
The German translation is missing, Italian.lproj also contains the Italian Localizable.strings (and the file InfoPlist.strings is missing)
I suppose that Turly, after reading this, will come with a correction soon.
If you prefer a different language for now, for instance English, you could dig deep down into FinderPop to
FinderPop.prefPane/Contents/Resources/finderpop-daemon.app/Contents/Resources/fp-patch.bundle/Contents/Resources/
then remove German.lproj, copy English.lproj and rename that copy to German.lproj.
Or simply go back to beta 2.3.0.1 for now.
27 Nov 2010, 22:45
marcusEting wrote:It was also really cool because if you already had a window open in explorer (finder) and switched focus to it (perhaps clicked on it) it would automatically move the dialog to be in that same folder. this was SO convenient.
Maybe not exactly the same, but when you drag the icon of a folder into a Open/Save dialog, the dialog moves to that folder. If the window is open, you can also drag the icon form its toolbar or title bar.
10 Nov 2010, 23:11
My kernel will be in 32-bit mode, with the OS and many application running in 64-bit mode. Snow Leopard will boot the 32-bit kernel by default, unless one forces to run the 64-bit kernel by holding "6" and "4" keys at start-up. Snow Leopard Server, however, will boot with the 64-bit kernel by default. http://hothardware.com/News/Apples-64Bi ... y-Default/
09 Nov 2010, 21:45
Yes, I am running the 2.3.0.1 beta. That explains why I get the "patching" messages and why Jon, running 2.3.0, does not see them. But does that also explain why Jon gets messages that I have never seen? No such messages here on similar hardware running the same OSX version, also not when I set Console to show all messages.
08 Nov 2010, 20:53
@ Jon
In which log do you see this? I do not see it on my 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo iMac running OSX 10.6.4.
With FP 2.3.0.1 beta, I only see lines like this one:
08-11-10 20:35:28 [0x0-0x20020].com.finderpop.fp-injector[176] FinderPop-beta-x86_64-23001: Patching 'TextEdit' 0:15f15f (CF-c)
(Which btw also shows that TextEdit is launched in 64-bit mode.)
18 Oct 2010, 20:50
Probably. I have them both also.
31 Aug 2010, 20:50
ewweber wrote:I suppose ABFR could well be the culprit, since it interacts with contextual menus.
I have A Better Finder Preferences.prefPane version 3.9 installed (still 32-bit) that goes with A Better Finder Rename 8 (v. 8.65) and A Better Finder Attributes 4 (v. 4.49). In MacOSX 10.6 the pref pane is only used for registration of the applications. Possible left-over contextual menu items are non-functional in MacOSX 10.6, the system will ignore them. In MacOSX 10.6 services took the place of contextual menu items. For both ABFR and ABFA services can be added to the Services item in contextual menus. On my machine with MacOSX 10.6.4, FinderPop works fine, with or without services for ABFR and/or ABFA enabled.
11 Aug 2010, 22:58
I rarely use column view and when I do I never have the preview column enabled.
To test this reported issue, I enabled preview column in column view. No problem here. The application icons appear normally as preview in the preview column, both with or without control-free popup enabled and both using mouse or arrow keys for selection
Intel Core 2 Duo iMac, MacOSX 10.6.4, FP 2.3.1 beta.
19 Jul 2010, 12:33
Still strange. As I noted in this earlier post, it does not happen with items in my Applications folder.
19 Jul 2010, 10:04
You did not mention the lag in your first couple of posts in this thread. Was the lag noticeable from the beginning or did it start later?
09 Jul 2010, 09:11
Did you try this: Log out and then login with shift key pressed (that will prevent login items to load). Then enable FP in the prefs pane. If there is no slowing in the Finder now, the problem is a conflict with one of the processes that are launched at login.
Sunday, I will be watching the match here in my favorite pub in Amsterdam.
I do admire especially some of the Barça players. Never underestimate them. One opening in our defense at the wrong time....
What is your interest in the orange team?
08 Jul 2010, 14:46
I can confirm that the result of selecting "Must be a control-click" is not as intended: When the option is checked, a normal (left) click does invoke the menu in the menu bar, a control-click (or right-click) does nothing.
I do not see any slowing in the Finder with FP active. Selecting a large number of items in Applications and creating aliases is executed instantaneously.
What do you mean with the "non-custom menu icons" ? In my FP menus, all icons show up the same as they do in the Finder.
MacOSX 10.6.4 and FP 2.3.0.1 beta (build 23001).
05 Jul 2010, 13:14
turly wrote:If you're running 10.6.x, note that FinderPop gets info on what it was you clicked on in the Finder via the Services subsystem - ensure that you have 'Folder Actions Setup' enabled:
System Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Services -> Files & Folders -> (ensure "Folder Actions Setup" is checked.)
I do not have 'Folder Actions Setup' enabled (first in 10.6.3 and now in 10.6.4) and FP does not appear to have a problem determining which item (folder or file icon) is clicked in the Finder. Under Files & Folders I have only one service checked: 'Add to VirusBarrier X6 Trusted...'.
18 Jun 2010, 20:05
Clicking in unused menu bar area still works fine here after updating 10.6.3 to 10.6.4. (I disabled menu bar transparency already in 10.5.)
29 May 2010, 20:44
The "Finder control-free popup" does indeed only work in the Finder.
For control-free contextual menus in Finder and many other applications, you could try "One Finger Snap":
http://www.old-jewel.com/onefingersnap/
Development has stopped and the latest version was intended for MacOSX 10.3 and 10.4, but it still works fine even in Snow Leopard MacOSX 10.6.3, though not for all applications (for instance not in Mail).
Before you start using One Finger Snap, disable the control-free popup in FinderPop by moving the slider all the way to the right.
24 May 2010, 20:43
It would help if you gave more details.
- Did you install the latest version 2.3.0?
- Does FinderPop now show up in System Preferences?
- Did you logout-login or restart your Mac after installation of FinderPop?
- Is FinderPop "On" as shown in the Pref panel in System Preferences?
- Exactly what do you mean with "unable to invoke FinderPop", what did you try that does not work?
12 May 2010, 12:07
I once had this accumulation of forbidden folders (or whatever they are) with volume names with numbers added in the /Volumes/ folder. Didn't know what to do with them and finally decided to trash them. Needed the administrator password. They did not return.
(You can view the contents of the /Volumes/ folder in the Finder using the "Go" menu.)
06 May 2010, 09:25
A. H. wrote:Now the word "BuildNumber" is shown in the bottom left corner of the preferences window, but without the number itself.
Problem only on PPC? Here it shows "Build 22782". (2.2.9beta, OSX 10.5.8, Intel)
02 May 2010, 08:59
Beware! I didn't try the link, but this smells like spam (or worse).
25 Apr 2010, 21:28
I noticed a small appearance bug that may have been there in previous versions without me noticing it before.
I have "Use same file names as displayed in Finder" enabled. Thus the Dutch localized names of files and folders will appear in the FP menus, like "Programma's" instead of "Applications". However, I have also "Add Contents submenu" enabled and when I select and right-click (or control-click) on a localized folder, the name of the contents submenu is always the non-localized name, "Applications" instead of the expected "Programma's".
(Still 10.5.8 on Intel Mac)
24 Apr 2010, 14:51
I suppose kjb asks for an item in the FP menu that is equivalent to the Print item in the Finder File menu. You can select the icon of a printable document (pdf, image, text, etc.) in the Finder and choose Print from the File menu.
20 Mar 2010, 11:47
A. H. wrote:I don't want that FP modifies any programs. It still scares me a bit.
I have had "FinderPop active in all applications, not just the Finder" enabled for years, with "Enhance other apps' Contextual Menus too" disabled. Clicking in the menu bar will thus always work and I have never seen problems in any one of my 170+ applications.
13 Mar 2010, 14:31
Maybe it is time to announce the latest beta (as beta version of course) on sites like VersionTracker. More people will try this version and there will be a better chance of getting reports of the odd bug that remained unnoticed so far.
18 Feb 2010, 21:40
Now two days in 10.5.8 on Intel. Works fine so far, at least for the features I use.
12 Feb 2010, 17:11
CrisBCT wrote:I've just checked my Control Panel settings, and my default was for me NOT to be emailed when there's a reply to a post. So I've now fixed this, but it might make more sense to enable this by default, and then let a user turn it off...
I am active in many forums and none are set to send email when there is a reply by default.
12 Feb 2010, 17:06
CrisBCT wrote:And although I have FP set to check for new releases, it did NOT tell me about b7...
There was no new release. A beta version is not a release version.
But 2.2.4 is the latest Leopard release, and yet these betas are still 2.2.4.
The latest release version is 2.2. The latest version for Leopard is 2.2.1 beta1.
28 Jan 2010, 14:49
When you drag and drop a document icon onto the application icon in the Dock, will the application launch and open the document?
25 Jan 2010, 15:53
turly wrote:I was looking at supporting old CM plugins but there are numerous problems with 64/32bitness.
Are you aware of Abracode Shortcuts that now has versions for Snow Leopard that supports CM items in Snow Leopard? There are two versions, one for 32bit and one for 64bit items, that can be used simultaneously. Apparently Shortcuts allows access to the old CM items in the new services menu in contextual menus.
(Haven't tried it myself yet, but intend to install it when I upgrade to Snow Leopard.)
24 Jan 2010, 21:51
Well, that shouldn't surprise you. FinderPop is intended to work with the Finder and clearly not with Path Finder, which is a Finder replacement and which does not use the Finder's contextual menus. In "Active" tab in FinderPop prefs panel you can turn off "Enhance other apps' Contextual Menus too" if you still want FinderPop to work in the menu bar with Path Finder, or you can choose to add Path Finder to the list of applications that will not be patched by FinderPop at all.
21 Jan 2010, 20:26
The "Options" are extras. With all options disabled, you will still have the FinderPop menu in contextual menus. In other words: Only checking "Clicking in unused menubar area invokes FinderPop" does not activate only that feature, it adds that feature. With everything disabled, also in Appearance and Active tabs, you will still have the FinderPop menu in Finder contextual menus, like on the desktop, which is the basic feature of FinderPop.
With the processes submenu disabled, the processes submenu will still appear when command-clicking in the menubar. Enabling that option will make the processes submenu appear always in the FinderPop menu. It looks as if this command-delete in Address Book is sometimes interpreted by FinderPop as a command click in an unused portion of the menubar. Again a keystroke that is seen as clicking in the menubar. Strange.
17 Jan 2010, 12:49
Getting used to Mac OS X (10.2) after switching from Mac OS 9 was not easy and one of the things I missed most was FinderPop. Then there was Ittec that had similar features and I used that one until it became clear that development had stopped and it was not updated for Tiger. I found FolderGlance and used it until I discovered that FinderPop was available for Mac OS X. Never looked back. FinderPop has been the most important reason for me to postpone upgrading to Snow Leopard. Although FolderGlance appeared to be compatible with Snow Leopard, I waited for Turly to make FinderPop work in Snow Leopard. The beta versions now seem to be working fine, so one of these days I will upgrade.
I cannot comment on the current FolderGlance versions, but it's basic functionality is very similar to FinderPop's basic features. I do not see how or why anyone would or could use both at the same time.
27 Dec 2009, 17:39
Apparently it has been changed. In previous FP versions, menu bar only items are defined by adding the '-!!m' modifier. Are now all '-!!_' item modifiers changed to '---_'?
Edit: Turly posted while I was writing.
22 Dec 2009, 00:15
As far as I know, there are only two possibilities. Either the FinderPop items are shown inline in contextual menus or the FinderPop items are shows in a submenu in contextual menus. If the item name ends with "-!!m" it will only show in the menu bar menu. (Make sure the alias name does not have a file extension, with a file name extension it will not work as intended.) If all item names end with "-!!m" (no need to put a space in between the name and this ending), none of the items should show in contextual menus, but you will always have a FinderPop folder in the contextual menus.
I think what you ask for is a new feature: When none of the FinderPop items are shown in contextual menus, also do not show the FinderPop folder in contextual menus.
21 Dec 2009, 16:06
Isn't that alias simply the only file in your FinderPop Items folder and isn't it thus displayed in the FP menu regardless whether the menu is invoked from the menu bar or elsewhere? Apparently the FP menu is set to be displayed inline (see FP Appearance settings). I am not aware of a feature in FP that displays items in the menu bar menu only. Or am I missing something?
Edit: Sorry, I see now that there is indeed such a feature. Items ending with -!!m should appear only in the menu from the menu bar.
27 Oct 2009, 22:25
Groovin wrote:Slightly off on a tangent, but, why, oh why has Apple made it so bloody difficult to manipulate file creator/type? It used to be so easy with AppleScript (before I discovered FP) back in the day...
Well, soon you will have no reason anymore to manipulate type and creator codes. Starting with Snow Leopard, type and creator are ignored.
29 Sep 2009, 11:51
Which "newer FP" version did you install in which MacOSX version on what kind of Mac (PPC or Intel), and which FP version is the "old one" that works?
19 Sep 2009, 22:01
See above. This beta will only work with 32-bit applications (or applications forced to launch as 32-bit) and in those applications it will work only in the menu bar. The Finder is 64-bit only, so it will not work in the Finder.
11 Aug 2009, 22:31
In FP menus, the full file names with extensions are indeed shown for individual files for which the extension is hidden in the Finder. I never really noticed that. The .app extension for application bundles is hidden in both Finder and FP menus. The FP setting "Use file names as displayed in Finder" shows the localized names for files and folders instead of their real names and that works fine.
(I think it is not correct anymore to refer to the extensions as DOS extensions. MacOSX needs and uses file name extensions to identify the nature of a file. The old type and creator codes are are not used anymore by most of today's Mac applications and many extensions are even used for MacOSX files only.)
23 Jul 2009, 23:23
Must be something else. When I drag a text clipping directly in the Finder and into a TextEdit window, the text is pasted. If I use "g" in a FinderPop menu and drag that same text clipping into a TextEdit window, the file path is pasted.
06 Jul 2009, 00:42
Horris wrote:I've heard thaz FP works perfectly under 10.4.11 but has some failings under 10.5.7.
Don't know what kind of problems you heard about, FP works fine in 10.5.7 here.
06 Jun 2009, 21:28
I wondered where you were. Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Take your time to get well.
12 May 2009, 22:12
Time to finally register for the NEW FinderPop Support Forum
I had similar strange items in my FinderPop Desktop submenu in the volumes section at the top. Empty folders that represented volumes that had been mounted in the past. I found them in /Volumes/ I simply trashed them (admin password needed).