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spdorsey
28 Sep 2009, 14:50
2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
I installed 2.2.3. Thanks a trillion for this!!!

It works in all apps that I have tested so far. Should it work in the Finder?

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turly
28 Sep 2009, 15:48
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Well, the click-in-unused menubar should work in the Finder.
So should control-command-click in a (blank area of a) Finder window or the desktop - it should pop up a "Contents" menu. One restriction: nothing should be selected in the window/desktop. I think I've figured out a way to get whatever-was-clicked on in the Finder so that restriction should go away in the next thrillseeker's beta...
francola
28 Sep 2009, 20:03
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Hi Turly!

I am quite sure that this is something you already know about. Initially, the click on unused portion of menu bar functions as expected, but after clicking around a bit I have found a bug that causes the FinderPop menu to appear in place of the normal Finder menu when clicking on file, edit, view, go etc.

Thanks so much for all of your hard work. I am very excited about getting FP working on my SL iMac! I have intentionally not updated my MacBook just so that I may continue to use FP!!

Frank
Ross
29 Sep 2009, 00:22
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
francola wrote:Hi Turly!

I am quite sure that this is something you already know about. Initially, the click on unused portion of menu bar functions as expected, but after clicking around a bit I have found a bug that causes the FinderPop menu to appear in place of the normal Finder menu when clicking on file, edit, view, go etc.

Thanks so much for all of your hard work. I am very excited about getting FP working on my SL iMac! I have intentionally not updated my MacBook just so that I may continue to use FP!!

Frank



I have the same problem on my Mac Pro with Mac OS X 10.6.1 installed.
spdorsey
29 Sep 2009, 01:12
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
I'm running 10.6.1.

FinderPop works in all apps, but it does nothing at all when the Finder is the frontmost app.

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MOAOM
29 Sep 2009, 21:46
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Thanks for TSB. Does the basics I need.
And, no, it doesn't work in Finder window. Until just now, it would work in Entourage window only.
But, I just discovered that it now works in Firefox window--only since I've been at this site????
Tuly, are you doing magic?

Whatever, it works well enough for me--for now.
turly
29 Sep 2009, 21:53
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
OK, will look at these issues before the next TSB release...
Thanks everyone!
turly
30 Sep 2009, 23:09
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Have a look at

http://www.finderpop.com/FP2231-ThrillS ... d-Only.zip

to see if that fixes your "click-in-unused-menubar" problems.

I managed to reproduce the problem only by changing screen resolutions or otherwise furtling with screen layout. I fixed *that* issue, please let me know if you still have issues...

Cheers!
MOAOM
01 Oct 2009, 00:06
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Bingo!
Time for a pint.
francola
01 Oct 2009, 00:49
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Unfortunately, now I am getting no FP menu from the menu bar with any app focused. My resolution is 1920 x 1200.

I am getting a consistent menu when clicking on the desktop though.

I also get the FP menu when clicking the top left corner of the screen.

Also have had FP stop responding completely at times.
cat
01 Oct 2009, 05:29
Re: 2.2.3.1 "thrillseekers beta"
I still cannot get menus in the Finder in menu bar. MacBook, screen resolution 1280x800. But the problem with FP menus hanging off of the normal Finder menu when clicking on file, edit, view, has gone!
turly
01 Oct 2009, 10:27
Re: 2.2.3.1 "thrillseekers beta"
FinderPop looks at the pixels on the screen around the mouse location to determine if a click really is in an "unused" menubar location. Obviously there is something amiss with my new Cocoa/OpenGL implementation, though most people have said it works fine.

I've added something to work around this - but be careful!
In Terminal, type the following

defaults write com.finderpop.finderpop controlClickAnywhereInMenubar -bool true

This basically says that if you control-click or right-click anywhere in the menubar - even in an application's menu titles - you'll get the FinderPop menu.
turly
01 Oct 2009, 10:33
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
francola wrote:Also have had FP stop responding completely at times.


Hmm, sounds like the finderpop-daemon has crashed - can you have a look at Console.app next time this happens? There might be some clues among the entrails...

Sorry about all this hassle, FinderPop for 10.6 is very much a work in progress :-/
francola
01 Oct 2009, 11:55
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
After the terminal entry, I am now getting nothing on the menu bar with a left click.
I do however get this with a control/command click:
Image

and this on the desktop with a control/command click:
Image

Of course this desktop behavior is not how the old FP appended itself to the top of the regular Finder menu. Is that what should be occurring at this point?
turly
01 Oct 2009, 12:53
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Hey Francola:

Yes, a control-click on the menubar with that defaults thing written will pop up the FP menu as you see. Although you appear to have pressed command-control-click which brings up the Processes menu. If control-clicking a blank portion of menubar doesn't work, but command-control-click does, is your FinderPop Items folder empty?

On the desktop with a control-command-click you get a CONTENTS menu of the desktop.
You don't (and never have) got the FinderPop menu with a ctrl-cmd-click - it was always CONTENTS.

I'm still working on getting the contextual menus working :-)
Ross
02 Oct 2009, 21:29
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Ross wrote:
francola wrote:Hi Turly!

I am quite sure that this is something you already know about. Initially, the click on unused portion of menu bar functions as expected, but after clicking around a bit I have found a bug that causes the FinderPop menu to appear in place of the normal Finder menu when clicking on file, edit, view, go etc.

Thanks so much for all of your hard work. I am very excited about getting FP working on my SL iMac! I have intentionally not updated my MacBook just so that I may continue to use FP!!

Frank



I have the same problem on my Mac Pro with Mac OS X 10.6.1 installed.


FP2231 fixed the problem for me.
cat
03 Oct 2009, 00:53
Re: 2.2.3.1 "thrillseekers beta"
Turly,

On both my Intel Macs, an iMac and a MacBook, I can get an FP menu in the Finder in the Menu bar but only if I click in the top left of the screen. And I cannot get any FP menus on the desktop or in a Finder window. (2.2.3.1).
turly
03 Oct 2009, 10:16
Re: 2.2.3.1 "thrillseekers beta"
cat wrote:On both my Intel Macs, an iMac and a MacBook, I can get an FP menu in the Finder in the Menu bar but only if I click in the top left of the screen. And I cannot get any FP menus on the desktop or in a Finder window. (2.2.3.1).

With this version, the only FP menus you'd get in a Finder window are if you command-control-click to get a Contents popup menu. Try this. Click on a blank area of the desktop to deselect everything. Then command-control-click the same spot. Do you get a Contents popup menu?

As for getting the FinderPop menu in the unused menubar , quoting from an earlier post, you could try this:

In Terminal, type the following

defaults write com.finderpop.finderpop controlClickAnywhereInMenubar -bool true

This basically says that if you control-click or right-click anywhere in the menubar - even in an application's menu titles - you'll get the FinderPop menu.
turly
04 Oct 2009, 17:55
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Apologies, forgot to post this earlier: cat pointed out to me in an email that there's a "Must be a control-click"' checbox in the FP prefpane which is relevant to menubar clicking and therefore may also need to be taken into account - mine is off.

Another thing which might screw up FP's notion of "is this click in an unused menubar area" is the translucency of the menubar combined with an irregular pattern on your desktop (eg, a photo.) You could try turning off menubar translucency in System Preferences -> Desktop & Screen Saver -> Desktop.

I am knee-deep in code at the moment converting my old FinderPop Carbon code to Cocoa. This might take some time!
(Plus I'm off on holiday to Chicago next Friday 9 October for 10 days so don't expect much done over that week..)
GianMarco Tavazzani
24 Oct 2009, 07:17
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Seems to not work anymore. And I miss it! Strange, because it was working, so I fear a conflict. Can I be helpful in 'debugging'?
turly
25 Oct 2009, 19:18
Re: 2.2.3 "thrillseekers beta"
Does anything appear in the console? FinderPop may write some diagnostic info there.