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Phredd
17 Oct 2011, 21:20
Re: Mystery solved but not problem.
RonaldPR wrote:Do you often use/need the toolbar and/or sidebar in Finder windows?

Double-clicking a folder in a window with toolbar and sidebar hidden will always open that folder in a new window, regardless the setting in Finder preferences. It works like that in Snow Leopard and as far as I remember it worked like that in Leopard. I keep toolbar and sidebar hidden in the window for most folders and I have Finder preferences set to not always open folders in a new window.


+++ Good tip, Ron. Unfortunately, I use the Toolbar constantly. I gotta have it on most windows.

I sure wish I could collapse that sidebar thing as you could in Tiger, though. It's useless to me. I almost never use it and it just takes up space.

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Phredd
17 Oct 2011, 19:04
Flexibility
Upgrade FP so that the user can choose which Modifier key(s) to us to invoke the FP contextual menu.

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Phredd
17 Oct 2011, 19:02
Mystery solved but not problem.
(Was: Lost Factory Feature)

It turns out that the reason Option-dbl-clicking a folder icon wouldn't open that folder and auto-close its parent folder was that I had "Always open in a new window" selected in the Finder Preferences. This is behavior that I cannot live without. Having the contents of a sub-folder open in an existing window borders on insanity. 'Sounds like something a peecee would do.

With that preference unchecked, the Option key once again works. And FP can be invoked with the Control key. The trouble is that you can no longer open a folder in a new window without pressing the Command key. Oh, goody. A thousand times a day I have to go to go get the Command key just to get a folder to open in its own window. Not gonna happen.

Oddly this bizarre behavior isn't present in Tiger. There you can have the "Always" preference selected and still open folder/close parent with the Option key (unlike having to use Control/Option as you do in Leopard). And, presumably, the Control key is available to invoke FP.

Tiger was a vastly superior OS to Leopard. In fact, ever since Apple abandoned the elegant Jaguar OS for the clumsy Panther one, every iteration of OSX has become less Mac and more peecee-like. What are they smoking out in Cupertino? Man, I feel sorry for anyone who is forced to use Lion.

Apparently, they feel sorry for themselves, too. Every single letter in the Feedback section of the November MacWorld was a complaint about Lion. Not one word of praise. And, the headline of the Features section is, HOW TO MAKE LION MORE LIKE SNOW LEOPARD." The whole issue is rife with Lion workarounds.

So, I’m right back where I started. I can either use a great Ute like FinderPop, or I can have Finder behave the way I want it to.

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Phredd
08 Oct 2011, 19:40
Re: Lost Factory Feature
turly wrote:Not at my Mac right now but option-double-clicking open a new window and close the old always worked for me and has been part of the Finder since System 6 (and possibly earlier, I can't remember.) I definitely used this facility recently and I have FinderPop on all my machines.

+++ Yeah, I know. And, to the best of my memory, it worked that way in Tiger, too. I’d still be using Tiger if it weren’t for getting an iPad.

Just a completely off the wall idea - you haven't gone and remapped your Control and Option keys in the keyboard prefPane, have you? :o


+++ I don't think so because I don't even know what that means. But, I recently upgraded my wife's iBook to Leopard 10.5.8. I’ve never even opened the preference panes on that machine and it behaves the same way as my G5 does now. Dbl-clicking with the Option key does not close the parent folder. The target folder opens in the existing parent folder's window. Her machine will close the parent window when dbl-clicking with the Cntrl/Otion keys, though. She does not have FinderPop on her machine.

I hate to do it because I really like FP but I guess I’m gonna hafta give it up. Having the parent folder window close automatically is too good a feature to sacrifice.

If anyone thinks of a workaround, please lemmeenno. I have QuicKeys but can't think of a way to solve the problem with it.

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Phredd
05 Oct 2011, 20:01
Re: Lost Factory Feature
billearl wrote:Contextual menus are invoked by control-click or right-click. Closing the parent folder is done by option-doubleclick. In no case should it be necessary to press both control and option keys simultaneously.



That's not the way Leopard works on my Mac. Maybe I have a system problem.
Phredd
05 Oct 2011, 18:40
Re: Lost Factory Feature
RonaldPR wrote:
Phredd wrote:The Factory Finder had a feature which I find almost indispensable. When I dubl-clicked a file or a folder whilst depressing the Control and Option keys, the file or folder would open and its parent folder would automatically close. A great time-saving feature.

Great feature indeed, but the feature works (and has worked in MacOS since long before MacOSX) with holding only the Option key.

+++ I know. But, it doesn't now. At least, it doesn't on my Mac.

Can FP be configured so that just using the Control key alone will invoke it?

It already does that. No need to also hold the Option key to invoke the FP menu.


+++ Perhaps I expressed myself badly. I’m wondering if FP can be configured to be invoked ONLY when the Control key is used ALONE so that it doesn't override the factory behavior of the Control/Option key to close the parent folder.

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Phredd
02 Oct 2011, 19:10
Lost Factory Feature
I’m brand new to FinderPop but so far, I love it. (The Pint is in the mail.)

I’m using vs. 2.4 on an old G5 Power PC running Leopard 10.5.8. The Factory Finder had a feature which I find almost indispensable. When I dubl-clicked a file or a folder whilst depressing the Control and Option keys, the file or folder would open and its parent folder would automatically close. A great time-saving feature.

However, with FinderPop activated, that fine factory Finder function is obviated in favor of the appearance of the contextual menu. Is there any way to restore it while using FinderPop? Can FP be configured so that just using the Control key alone will invoke it?

IAIA, if I’m the 7th bazillion moron to ask about this and have missed the answer in the Help file.

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