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pyffi
23 Mar 2010, 21:55
Finder selection problem with FP225
Hi turly,

If I select a folder xxx in Finder and then ctrl-click on that folder, none of the FinderPop Items ending in ---f are visible in the FinderPop menu. If I ctrl-click on a different file or folder yyy (with folder xxx still selected in Finder), all FinderPop Items ending in ---f are visible in the menu, but refer to the finder selection xxx.
If the selected object xxx is a file (not a folder) everything works fine.

(FP build 22502 on a 27" iMac with OS 10.6.2; same problem on a MacBook Pro and on an older iMac).

:?: pyffi
turly
24 Mar 2010, 00:10
Re: Finder selection problem with FP225
When FinderPop intercepts a control-click, it tries to figure out what item(s) you control-clicked.
It sounds as if FinderPop is not able to tell that you clicked an item until the next time you click an item - ie, it's one "event" behind.

I had problems like this when I was trying to get FinderPop working for the first time on 10.6 last year, but I thought I'd fixed it.

Is there anything unusual about the 'xxx' folder you selected first in the Finder?
pyffi
24 Mar 2010, 07:51
Re: Finder selection problem with FP225
No, the problem appears to be independent of the specific folder xxx selected initially.
pyffi
24 Mar 2010, 09:41
Re: Finder selection problem with FP225 - PS
The problem seems to involve an undocumented feature (= bug) in OS 10.6. Automator behaves in exactly the same way (with FP switched off):
1. Define a workflow 'test' using a little applescript which returns the name of a selected object, and save that workflow as a Service.
2. Select any folder xxx in Finder.
3. Ctrl-click on any other file or folder yyy and invoke the workflow 'text' in 'Services' from the contextual menu.

The result is the address of xxx rather than that of yyy.

What appears to be peculiar to FP is that it does not recognize that there is a Finder selection if a folder xxx is selected in Finder and then ctrl-clicked.

;) pyffi
turly
24 Mar 2010, 20:40
Re: Finder selection problem with FP225 - PS
pyffi wrote:3. Ctrl-click on any other file or folder yyy and invoke the workflow 'text' in 'Services' from the contextual menu.


Interesting. Where does the 'Services' contextual menu come from?
Do you have something else installed to give you the Services submenu on the Finder's contextual menu?
pyffi
25 Mar 2010, 09:37
Re: Finder selection problem with FP225
If you open 'Automator' you can create various things, including 'Services'. They end up in a folder called ~/Library/Services/

If you like you can create that folder directly and put in the attached workflow 'Test.workflow'. Check that it is ticked in System Preferences/Keyboard/Keyboard Shortcuts/Services/
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Re: Finder selection problem with FP225

Postby turly » 25 Mar 2010, 23:21

OK, I get it now - sorry, bit slow today. I've installed your Test workflow, but it specifically asks the Finder for the selected items, and when you control-click an item. the Finder does not change the selection. (And hasn't done since 10.5.)

Because asking the Finder for "the selection" does not work reliably, FinderPop ends up having to do all sorts of horrible munging under the hood to find out what it really was you control-clicked. This works fine for me and presumably everyone else using FinderPop, so there's something different about your system..? Any ideas - anything unusual about your system? Any odd prefpanes installed?

If anyone reading this has similar problems with FP, could you please chime in and maybe we can find a common denominator here...
pyffi
28 Mar 2010, 12:19
Re: Finder selection problem with FP225
turly wrote:Because asking the Finder for "the selection" does not work reliably, FinderPop ends up having to do all sorts of horrible munging under the hood to find out what it really was you control-clicked. This works fine for me and presumably everyone else using FinderPop, so there's something different about your system..? Any ideas - anything unusual about your system? Any odd prefpanes installed?

If anyone reading this has similar problems with FP, could you please chime in and maybe we can find a common denominator here...


Nothing exotic. Here are the prefPanes I have installed:

DictionaryCleaner1.5, DejaVu v.3.6, Flip4Mac WMV v.2.3.2.6, TeX Distribution; I have just removed Growl, but that hasn't made any difference
turly
24 Apr 2010, 12:00
Re: Finder selection problem with FP225
Just checking here, but presumably you have Folder Actions enabled in Services?

System Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Services -> Files & Folders -> (ensure "Folder Actions Setup..." is checked.)
pyffi
25 Apr 2010, 20:17
Re: Finder selection problem with FP225
Checking or unchecking Folder Actions Setup... doesn't seem to affect anything.

Here is a curious fact:

If I select a folder in Column View and then control-click on it, the ...---f items in the FinderPop Items folder are invisible in the FinderPop menu.

However, if I switch to List View, select a folder, and control-click on it, the ...---f items in the FinderPop Items folder are visible in the FinderPop menu.

Weird.